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  • George Leonard Moreland was a member of the Baseball Writers Association of America(BWAA-1908) representing Pittsburgh. He was born in England in 1862. He published a history of Baseball called Balldom in 1914. He died between 1938-47). He had been a Pittsburgh sport writer for the Pittsburgh Post and became a baseball statistician with his own bureau. He also had a son named Leonard, and a wife name Yvette, I think. For ALL his date,yr. & place of death. I can pay $15. for His date of birth in England would definitely earn a $5. tip.


  • Dear Omnivorous, The 1920 census lists Moreland as living in Pensyvania, in Allegheny County, having been born in England. I do not know how to determine address. Please do ask me if there is anything I can supply you with, to accomadate your progress. I'm going to try to work the current publishers angle, if I can. Bluestreak


  • For anyone with the fortitude to work on George Leonard Moreland. One strategy is to focus on his book, Balldom(1914). It was subsequently re-published 3 times, 1915,1916,1926. He also published something called Moreland's Percentage Tables(1913), which is not only still available from baseball books sellers for $10.00, and interestingly was self-published by Moreland News Bureau. I know his book Balldom was also self-published by Moreland News Bureau. Another stategy is to look at his son, Leonard. The SS death index lists someone as Leonard Moreland, whose details include: Born:Sept.6,1901, Died:Dec.,1984, Place of Death:NYC 10011, SS# 089-07-7362, Issued:NY He was born in PA. Another stategy is his wife, Yvette born in England around 1881. If I can gather any further data, I'll certainly pass it on. This is mainly for luciaphile & onmivorous. I hope this helps. Thank you for your fortitude. Bluestreak


  • Hi luciaphile! Thanks a million for tackling George. His book, Balldom, gives his yr. of birth as 1862. The 1920 federal census lists his place of birth as first Pennsylvania, but then is lined out, and England is written above it. His son Leonard is born in Pennsyvania. His wife is also listed in that census as born in England. There was a Moreland News bureau in the 1910's, presumably about baseball. An article in The Sporting News(Dec.15,1938,pp10) listed him among the original members of the Baseball Writers Association of America(BWAA)covering the 1908 World Series for a Pittsburgh newpaper. The same article listed him as alive. A 1947 history of the Pittsburgh Pirates by Fred Lieb referred to the Moreland book Balldom often, and referred to George as "the late George Moreland". I have other stuff I'll post tonight, when I have a moment to write more. Again, thanks for taking George on. Bluestreak


  • Bluestreak -- There are two ways to get address: 1. the street names are often written in the margins on the enumeration sheets; a house number will be next to the person. Census enumeration sheets track two numbers: the order of the houses on the sheet (with about 200 per enumeration district) and street number. 2. provide the ED (enumeration district) from the previous census and I can likely find them in 1920. Here's a Google question with Census information for my own family: https://answers.google.com/answers/main?cmd=threadview&id=114997 At least we'll get this narrowed down by another 10 years . . . Best regards, Omnivorous-GA


  • Bluestreak -- Either Luciaphile or I are going to find Moreland. The book was ALSO republished by Horton Publishing in 1989. No clue as to who they are but they probably wanted to get a great old baseball book back into print. Moreland was also apparently THE American League statistician in the early days. I'm chasing the SABR/baseball research areas to see what I can find. Best regards, Omnivorous-GA Tribe Fan


  • Hi bluestreak-ga, This one is proving very difficult. It might help us if we knew what sources you've consulted on this one already. Regards, luciaphile-ga


  • lucia, I will give details on Moreland. The 1920 census gives these entrys: G L Moreland, 59,born England, 2.wife Yetta(best as I could make out),39,born England 3. son Leonard, 18, born Pennsyvania, mill clerk Another source is a book Honus Wagner by Arthur D. Hittner(1996)pp.18 "George L. Moreland, later a pioneer baseball historian and statistician, was assembling a ballclub at Steubenville,Ohio to compete in the fledgling Inter-State League. W.W.Kerr, then president and principal owner of the Pittsburgh Pirates, was among Moreland's financial backers." Another source is Honus Wagner by Dennis Devaleria & Jeanne Burke Devaleria(1995)pp.13 "A few Pittsburgh men joined a group of Ohioans in an effort to form a new minor league for 1895. George L. Moreland, A Pittsburgh sportswriter and the secretary of the now-defunct Allegheny County League, was itching to get into baseball in an official capacity. He began to beat the drum for the formation of a league and agreed to own, operate, and manage a club in Steubenville, Ohio. The Inter-State League would comprise clubs from seven Ohio towns as well as wheeling,West Virginia." Mr. Moreland also managed Canton in the Tri-State League in 1890. These are most of my references that I can find on George Moreland at this time. He is my oldest search subject. Bluestreak


  • Hi Omnivorous, I checked the 1920 census. The only thing that appears in the margin next to Moreland's name is the number 785. Bluestreak


  • In looking through my library of baseball reference books, I can't find any memtion of his Moreland News Bureau. I don't know if his business was either bought out or incorporated into one of the other baseball information outlets of the day, such as Elias Baseball Bureau or Howe.


  • Dear Ominvorous, I just must thank you and luciaphile so very very much for your fortitude,patience and heart for your continued help on my behalf. Thank you for the good lead on the present publisher Horton Publishing. I found out that their address is:Bradford,West Yorkshire,UK 1991. It came out in Feb.,1989. It's IBSN # is 0-944786-46-4. I will write them(Google.com didn't give an email address). I will also write to Golden Age Publishing(when I find their email address). They published his book, Balldom, on CD-Rom, in 2002. It's IBSN # is:1-59090-055-3. So thank you both so very, very much for all your help. Moreland is my oldest research subject. One cardinal virtue to research is follow-through, longevity. I never stop. I take breaks and come back again & again. Bluestreak


  • Bluestreak -- No luck with the Baseball Writers Association of America or SABR. SABR has a question posted in 1997 on its forums asking for historical information about George and James Moreland, with no apparent response. Have you checked the 1930 Census? I'll be at NARA early this week and could check Moreland for you but would need address/county/state for him from 1920. Best regards, Omnivorous-GA


  • Bluestreak -- I can't swear that we'll get this one nailed down, but I can't emphasize how much the details are worth. On Moreland, I want to give you some idea of what I've found (and I know that several other researchers have been hot on the trail): 1. his book is often mentioned; Arthur Daley (NY Times Sports Columnist) quotes it as recently as 1945 2. standard biographical references (Marquis Who's Who in America) routinely ignore baseball figures. They don't even mention Tristram! Moreland isn't in the 1932-33 Who's Who in America (but neither is Tris Speaker). 3. The 1914-1916 Book Review Digests don't list his book. That doesn't mean much, because like the "Who's Who" they ignored important subjects like baseball. This is probably the important question: is there any indication of his baseball statistics agency? Did it get acquired by Sporting News or one of the majors? Best regards, Omnivorous-GA







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